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    Let's get serious:fracking jobs cost twice as much as green jobs

    The fracking process to extract deep seams of natural gas in the Earth costs too much,too much water, too much carbon in the air, but a new study shows dollar for dollar , fracking creates half as many jobs as renewable energy. For example, the Sun Oil refinery in Marcus Hook is being re-opened as a site of refining fracking -extracted natural gas . It will create only 450 new jobs. The Delaware Bluewater Off-Shore Wind project would have initially created over 1200 jobs to start with if the Republican-controlled Congress hadn't cut Obama's green Stimulus for renewable energy businesses and blocked the Wind Power Tax Credit(It also threatens the Texas Wind Power Industry as well)Only fossil-free energy can build the economy and planet we need.




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    3 days ago – This article was published in collaboration with GlobalPossibilities.org. President Obama's 2009 economic stimulus program—the American ...
    Generally speaking, spending on green investments creates approximately three times as many jobs as spending the same amount of money on maintaining our existing fossil fuel sector. The reasons are straightforward. First, clean energy investments are simply more labor intensive. Also, a higher proportion of overall spending on the green economy remains within the domestic economy as opposed to purchasing imports. ...Nevertheless, there was, indeed, a serious problem with the green stimulus program, which was that not enough money went out the door quickly enough. Given that the budget under President Bush for clean energy investments never even reached $2 billion per year, ratcheting up to $100 billion with the ARRA inevitably entailed major administrative bottlenecks. Indeed, the Congressional Budget Office had anticipated from the start that the green investment features of the ARRA would require five years, not two, to be fully disbursed, with the bulk of the overall budget being spent in the later years. However, by the end of 2011, with only about 40 percent of the allocated funds (at most) having been spent, the remaining allocations were cancelled as part of the new mantra in Washington for deficit reduction. ... There are certainly lessons that need to be learned from the spectacular collapse of Solyndra. But the broad-brush claim that all subsidies for renewable energy are boondoggles is not one of them. In fact, if the world is going to have a chance of controlling climate change over the next twenty to thirty years, renewable energy needs to become abundant and cheap. Among renewable energy sources, wind, geothermal, biofuels, and hydroelectric are already either as affordable or within range of oil, coal, natural gas, and nuclear power strictly in terms of costs. These renewable sources will therefore not require major levels of continued subsidies to establish and maintain commercial competitiveness.

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    Re: Let's get serious:fracking jobs cost twice as much as green jobs

    I told myself I would stop engaging in your shenanigans, but apparently I can't not comment on this one.

    its shear job size, your talking about putting wind turbines in the water, lots and lots of them. There would have to be a ton more people working for that. Only because of the shear size of it. Not to mention, if they used the same amount of people it would take them decades to do it. Everything would have to done from the ground up.

    Then your talking about a refinery, where you know the refinery really does all the work. The people who will be working on it just watch gauges and everything. Nothing in this process is built from the ground up. Why not count the jobs of the people who are extracting the gas as well, instead of just counting the refinery jobs.

    This whole comparison is just asinine to me. You must of been tired from being up all late, and got a little delirious.
    It's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years......

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    Re: Let's get serious:fracking jobs cost twice as much as green jobs

    I'm trying to do the same, I got no respect for ol' Gil..........


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    Re: Let's get serious:fracking jobs cost twice as much as green jobs

    Green enery can't compete with Natural Gas when it comes to BTU output. That's like saying electricity costs more to distribute than handing batteries out.....no shit. Green energy isn't cost effective considering what you get out of it after spending tons of money. Sure, it creates jobs up front but for what? Until green energy can sustain the demand, it's a waste of money.

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    Re: Let's get serious:fracking jobs cost twice as much as green jobs

    I wonder if this includes all the wasted money, solandra, fisker.......


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    Re: Let's get serious:fracking jobs cost twice as much as green jobs

    yep, and where does all that energy come from to charge that electric car??? CLEAN COAL baby!!


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