Morning-After Pills Available at 13 NYC Schools

[EpicWin]

I guess personal responsibility is quickly becoming a thing of the past..

Well I remember a speech about 4 years ago that someone mentioned change was coming to America?

[Tracy]

Abstintence first also isn't working very well in Red States. Gay students don't have to worry about 'morning-after pills' or pregnancy tests,maybe that's why so many young people are coming out of the closet and showing more favoritism towards same-sex pleasures?




'Abstinence-plus' emerging in more Texas schools - Worldnews.com

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Jun 28, 2012 – That's according to the Texas Department of State Health Services. ... Holeva says the curriculum in both Ector and Midland counties just isn't cutting it. ... So, unless the credit market is working, there will be few if any car ...... The Red River forms a natural border with Oklahoma and Arkansas to the north.

wow Beau...I'm surprised by this comment...it suggest that homosexuality is a choice. You don't SERIOUSLY think that someone is born heterosexual and decides one day to become homosexual because they don't have to worry about becoming pregnant do you? It is commonly accepted that one is either born gay or born straight.

[Beau Stockard]

Not at all, Tracy, but being sexually active at an early age is a choice ,and many of our teens are making the choice to engage in unprotective sex . However, one positive result in these school programs that offered sex education, health hygiene, condoms ,and other contraceptives to young students, is it has awakened young people to the risks of being sexually active, and the dangers of the spread of disease, stds, aids, etc. It may have also encouraged young people to engage in sexual experimentation ,weakened older social taboos on non-procreation sexual intercourse, fetishism, reverse sexual role-playing, etc. Society has promoted 'personal responsibility' for sex at a younger age and it has brought us a greater diversity of sexual license of all kinds.

[Jessica]

It may have also encouraged young people to engage in sexual experimentation ,weakened older social taboos on non-procreation sexual intercourse, fetishism, reverse sexual role-playing, etc.

Whaaaaaaat?

You lost me here. If I understand your point correctly, it's that sex ed has encouraged young people to experiment sexually and have sex? The complete opposite is true. Sex ed of ANY kind - abstinence or formal - causes a high percentage teens to delay having sex. Formal sex education also helps to prevent pregnancy in teens that choose to engage and prevent the spread of STDs in the 15-19 yo population.

As for whether sex ed contributes to an increase in fetishes or reverse sexual role-playing (whatever that is...), I have never heard anything even remotely close to that being true.

[Beau Stockard]

Jessica,

You lost me here. If I understand your point correctly, it's that sex ed has encouraged young people to experiment sexually and have sex?

Sex ed makes sexual activity safer, healthier , more hygienic , sanitary ,etc. . "Sex" is no longer conceived as taboo, "dirty", private, doesn't suggest the 'dirty fumbling in the backseats of cars at drive-in movies' type of thinking anymore or less so. So, sexual education had to have played a role into making 'sex' into something wholesome, healthy, natural, and pleasurable no matter how people have 'done it'.

[EpicWin]

Whaaaaaaat?

You lost me here.

He has the effect on everyone he encounters.

[Grin]

I'm pro choice (to a point) I just want more responsibility. After talking to my wife about this she tells me her office has to see girls as young as 12 as long as there is an adult with them.

I guess personal responsibility is quickly becoming a thing of the past..

I know you are not suggesting that 12 year old girls take personal responsibility. Please elaborate.

[longnecker]

I guess personal responsibility is quickly becoming a thing of the past..

OR have morals changed so much it's not thought og that way anymore???

[max1]

I know you are not suggesting that 12 year old girls take personal responsibility. Please elaborate.

If they are going to have sex they should be taught that there are consequences I believe that, but I really meant that Mothers and Fathers should pay more attention.

[max1]

If anyone is willing to accept that its ok for a 12 year old to have sex then you should expect them to take some responsibility.

[hockey]

If anyone is willing to accept that its ok for a 12 year old to have sex then you should expect them to take some responsibility.

Ew... hell no, I, for one, am talking High School.

[max1]

Yes, but if we are going to look at it we need to look at it from all angles and add all data that is important and 12 year old girls fit into the demographic.

[hockey]

If your 12 year old girl gets pregnant, you've got bigger problems. Chances are that's rape unless another 12 year old knocked her up...in that case, you need to move.

I don't think everyone who can get pregnant needs to be lumped into NYC's public HS's Plan B idea.... unless the topic has changed? Wait, did the topic change?

[Bellicose]

Moving is not going to make her sexually inactive, yeah maybe the parents should be more n watch. She's still going to have or make chances to have sex regardless, of how strict you are. Plus even if you did find out that she is equally active, and you get more strict, it's only going t make her rebel, and do it anyway. Moving ain't going to stop the pregnancy either.

i know a story about someone who goes to a small little tiny convenient store/ deli for some things. She knows the people pretty well, follows the proper procedures to getting her order filled for when she needs it picked up. She arrives when she is told to pick her order up, yet the order is not ready. She harasses them some about it and they sorry there was something happening across the street from said place. Apparently a young juvenile couple, or maybe not even a couple, from the Christian (I think) school , a tiny bit down the road. We're on the steps of the not so occupied building across the street doing some things to each other, before the boy hiked up her school uniform skirt and started to do some way more adult like things.

Now say you were her parents, and told her she needs to come straight home for school afterwards, and this place is on the way to her house. Maybe he dips out of school early and meets up with young buck, and does this. Or maybe she didn't dip out early, and she knew you may be coming home a little late, whether it happened here or at home. There is nothing you could of done to prevent that little hussy and man pig from doing that. Don't know the ages, and don't know what ever came out of it, whether legal, or family issues. Moving would not change that either, she would just find someone else to do it with.

[Beau Stockard]

Moving is not going to make her sexually inactive, yeah maybe the parents should be more n watch. She's still going to have or make chances to have sex regardless, of how strict you are. Plus even if you did find out that she is equally active, and you get more strict, it's only going t make her rebel, and do it anyway. Moving ain't going to stop the pregnancy either.

i know a story about someone who goes to a small little tiny convenient store/ deli for some things. She knows the people pretty well, follows the proper procedures to getting her order filled for when she needs it picked up. She arrives when she is told to pick her order up, yet the order is not ready. She harasses them some about it and they sorry there was something happening across the street from said place. Apparently a young juvenile couple, or maybe not even a couple, from the Christian (I think) school , a tiny bit down the road. We're on the steps of the not so occupied building across the street doing some things to each other, before the boy hiked up her school uniform skirt and started to do some way more adult like things.

Now say you were her parents, and told her she needs to come straight home for school afterwards, and this place is on the way to her house. Maybe he dips out of school early and meets up with young buck, and does this. Or maybe she didn't dip out early, and she knew you may be coming home a little late, whether it happened here or at home. There is nothing you could of done to prevent that little hussy and man pig from doing that. Don't know the ages, and don't know what ever came out of it, whether legal, or family issues. Moving would not change that either, she would just find someone else to do it with.

So, in essence , you're agreeing
with the women on here(Jessica, Tracy, hockey) and the N Y C school system that they haven't the capability or even the authority to prevent teenage students from being sexually active, but the best practical optimal solution would be to help the young manage the consequences of their actions. Isn't it like giving out free , clean ,sanitized needles to heroin addicts in order to control the spread of STDs, AIDS ,and other diseases? You can't control the behavior, but you can manage the outcomes of the behavior to some degree.

[Bellicose]

I guess I am. I can not say I am for it, but then again I can not say I am against it either. I know if I was a parent, I would much rather my daughter come to my Wife and I and we could help her take the proper procedures to make sure as much as possible, she would never need the option the school is giving.

Need to make sure my statement before is correct though. That morning after pills do not terminate if the demons have already reached the holy grail. Because that really weighs heavily on what side I'm on.

[EpicWin]

Based on just your posts in this thread, Beau. I believe your seriously smoke more than a peace pipe.

[Beau Stockard]

Based on just your posts in this thread, Beau. I believe your seriously smoke more than a peace pipe.

If you're slow and have trouble following along as quickly as the rest of us then raise your hand and ask a question about the subject matter of the thread here, but making a nuisance of yourself by hijacking the thread doesn't help you or anyone,buddy.

[Beau Stockard]

Bellicose,

Because that really weighs heavily on what side I'm on.

No doubt it should on you and other concerned parents of teenage children who choose to become sexually active. Stay active in your PTA and in your children's lives and nurture a strong, open, and trusting relationship with them.

[Bellicose]

Stay active in your PTA and in your children's lives and nurture a strong, open, and trusting relationship with them.

Yup good luck with that from me......