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[Curly]

First, you might want to figure out who said what before you spew the bullshit. To much coffee and a twitchy finger.

[Beau Stockard]

First, you might want to figure out who said what before you spew the bullshit. To much coffee and a twitchy finger.

You crack me up,Curly! But, I'll accept yours and Chiefbuck's apology for being so wrong.

[Curly]

You crack me up,Curly! But, I'll accept yours and Chiefbuck's apology for being so wrong.

No I don't. Quit trying so hard. It's getting sad.

[Grin]

Just for the record, I am familiar with the situation in Pa and it is more than fair.

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Coming from you Chief, that puts my mind at rest.

[Chiefbuck]

Beau, Remember hearing about ACORN? In some urban areas its a long standing practice to bus voters to the polls. Sometimes those 'voters' are provided with expense money and refreshments. Previously it had been reported that in Philadelphia one such voter consumed too many 'refreshments' and while trying to get the correct voter registration card in the voting district, he dropped SEVENTEEN voter registration cards at the check in table. In 2008 we all remember that nifty black panther incident that our justice department ignored. Once upon a time there was a community organizer who was a lawyer working for ACORN who has since 'given up' his license to practice law. Hopefully that person will join the millions of unemployed Americans on Jan 20, 2013. Today Juan Williams reports that the 'republican rage' against Obamacare has diminished and also reported is that our beloved and respected VP really connects with senior citizens. Being both a senior citizen and a conservative republican, this is news to me and probably to many others who are in the same category. But then I'm one who does not believe even 40% of what the mainstream media provides and also refuses to waste time viewing the ultra liberal websites and cable TV channels.

[EpicWin]

No I don't. Quit trying so hard. It's getting sad.

Leave the poor lonely lad alone, Curly. He's only trying to be the most unsuccessful troll TD has ever seen.

[Beau Stockard]

Chiefbuck,

Today Juan Williams reports that the 'republican rage' against Obamacare has diminished

Juan Williams, FoxNews conservative analyst also provided actual quotes from Republicans like Mitt Romney and Bill Frist to support his argument. Mitt Romney has said on Meet the Press that he supported 'parts of Obamacare' such as the rights of people with pre-existing conditions not to be denied healthcare insurance. However, Mitt Romney never says how he would pay for the costs of covering people with pre-existing conditions. But, it's already been made clear that Paul Ryan thinks that the middle class tax payer and the people with pre-existing conditions should pay more rather than the big insurance and healthcare providers . Bill Frist also came out in support of the Obamacare healthcare exchanges and 'Obamacare generally'. The stumbling block for many Republicans still remains on who benefits?;who pays? because the GOP refuses to go against their main financial support for existing:Big Corporations and the 1% who believe private greed= public virtue.

In some urban areas its a long standing practice to bus voters to the polls.

Yes, Chiefbuck, it has been a charming tradition that many Black -Americans have maintained for years to attend Church services in the morning then ride over on the Sunday school buses to vote . I hope that you're taking note of the latest Republican voting fraud scandal involving Nathan Sproul , longtime GOP campaign employee, dirty trickster, and Romney political consultant.

[Beau Stockard]

Leave the poor lonely lad alone, Curly. He's only trying to be the most unsuccessful troll TD has ever seen.

It seems that the biggest miscreant trolls like to shout the loudest to drown out any means of reasonable discourse. Nice try trolls; but I'm not leaving and won't be silenced by you on defending reasonable open and mutually respectful discussion on here.

[Beau Stockard]

Leave the poor lonely lad alone, Curly. He's only trying to be the most unsuccessful troll TD has ever seen.

Nice try trolls; but I'm not leaving and won't be silenced by you on defending reasonable open and mutually respectful discussion on here. I'll appreciate more the admirable, often thankless job, that the TD moderators do to keep the playground clean of hazards, safe, and enjoyable for all.

[EpicWin]

Double posting again?

[Beau Stockard]

Double posting again?

Not enough coffee in the morning again? 2 different posts. Get with the program and wake up, dude! :-D

[Curly]

It seems that the biggest miscreant trolls like to shout the loudest to drown out any means of reasonable discourse.

You would know.

[cracker]

Lol, I'm a white illegal Canadian and no one ever questions me when I go to vote here in the US.

[Chiefbuck]

Just as Fox News annoys viewers with the disgusting and arrogant Bob Beckel, we conservatives and libertarians who participate in this medium of discussion must pay a similar price to air our views. Remember, it is both freedom of speech and the public exposure of liberal ideas that we desire. The more information that liberal progressives provide about their agenda the sooner it will as it always has, fail. Each time the cycle repeats itself in our nation we get further into debt and depravity. This current infestation has been costly in many ways that will result in long term damage. Today reports of the Obama administration's efforts to silence defense contractors about impending layoffs before the Nov 6th election are quite telling and possibly illegal. Telling someone to violate the law is against the law. Just think, we have a commander in chief who while reducing our military capacity has also demonstrated his brilliant strategy of informing the enemy of our date of withdrawal. Meanwhile in Afghanistan our troops are being killed by those who we have trained to replace us after we abandon our efforts. All the blood and treasure spent in that effort will be wasted, almost. Perhaps the terrorists will thank us for providing them with modern equipment and bases.

[Beau Stockard]

Chiefbuck,

Telling someone to violate the law is against the law.

So, what's your opinion of Mitt Romney and the Republican Party employeeing Nathan Sproul for years to break voter fraud laws , destroying hundreds of democratic voter registration forms,dirty-tricksterism, etc. or aren't you "interested' in 'GOP crimes and misdemeanors'?

Meanwhile in Afghanistan our troops are being killed by those who we have trained to replace us after we abandon our efforts. All the blood and treasure spent in that effort will be wasted, almost. Perhaps the terrorists will thank us for providing them with modern equipment and bases.

Maybe, if George W. Bush had listened to his father or his father's old advisors more ,like Colin Powell and Caspar Weinberger(i.e. Weinberger/Powell Doctrine on limited engagement , exit strategy, and popular support at home) then the Obama Administration wouldn't have had to face a difficult, impossible situation in trying to save Bush's war and nation-building in Afghanistan and Iraq , accept supporting the lesser evil, politically corrupt Karzai regime and preventing a Taliban regime that was more brutal and tyrannical from seizing power, plus devising a withdrawal of U S military with the war's end.

[Chiefbuck]

Beau, Not being a veteran (other than the merchant Marine) you probably have no concept of what is necessary to maintain a national defense. Bush 41 left Bubba a formidable fighting force with pretty good intel sources in place. We all know what happened with the massive reductions in military and intel and with the guidance of the Jamie Gorelik plan not to share intel info. Now before you cite stats indicating that Bubba did nothing of the sort, allow me to inform you that I was serving in Washington DC during those years. When "W" was sworn in he found that considerable rebuilding was necessary and after 9/11 many other problems surfaced. Intel needed to be rebuilt and poorly trained and ill equipped forces had to be trained and equipped. Much of the new technology that Bubba took credit for was already in the pipeline from Bush 41. You must be aware that the start of the decline in the economy and other areas started in January of 2007 with the arrival of a democratic house and senate.
Things in Iraq are starting to unravel as is the situation in Afghanistan. In fact there are few bright spots in the middle east under the Obama foreign policy. Apologizing and bowing seem to be failing as a foreign policy. But Biden can always step up and gaffe the enemy into submission. My suggestion would be to ask for liberals to step up and serve as enemy hostages to prevent missile and drone attacks.
You mention dirty politics and point at republicans, have you ever heard the name Harry Reid? A list of the scoundrels on the left wing of the democrat party would take days to provide, not to mention the entire left wing mainstream media. You provide left wing talking points and expect readers to believe every word. Please give the readers some credit for having the ability to think for themselves.

[Beau Stockard]

Chiefbuck,

Bush 41 left Bubba a formidable fighting force with pretty good intel sources in place. ...When "W" was sworn in he found that considerable rebuilding was necessary and after 9/11 many other problems surfaced. Intel needed to be rebuilt and poorly trained and ill equipped forces had to be trained and equipped

You can't have it BOTH ways, dude , by citing Bush41 defense reforms for Clinton's successes then try to impugn that those same intel and defense improvements were not really improvements thus making 'Bush W ' have to play catch-up before being capable of preventing 9/11 type terrorism. Live in the Republican 'bubble ' devoid of facts , logic, and science, but please don't lie; it only makes your argument even weaker and more ridiculous.

[Beau Stockard]

Chiefbuck,

Beau, Not being a veteran (other than the merchant Marine) you probably have no concept of what is necessary to maintain a national defense.

And I would agree . You have 'no concept of what is necessary to maintain a national defense' too, but I know mine is only an opinion . It is also in my informed opinion that Mitt Romney and his running mate Paul Ryan have not given much thought to their own lack of any understanding on the limits of U S force in a very complex ,interdependent world.

"This complexity doesn’t argue for isolationism. It argues for using our power judiciously and in a nuanced fashion. For instance, if you had listened to Romney criticizing Obama for weakness after the attack on the U.S. consulate in Bengha...zi, Libya, you’d have thought that, had Romney been president, he would have immediately ordered some counterstrike. But, had we done so, it would have aborted what was a much more meaningful response: Libyans themselves taking to the streets under the banner “Our Revolution Will Not Be Stolen” and storming the headquarters of the Islamist militias who killed the U.S. ambassador. It shows you how much this complexity can surprise you."

The World We're Actually Living In - NYTimes.com

www.nytimes.com/.../friedman-the-world-were-actually-living-in.ht...
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Op-Ed Columnist. The World We're Actually Living In. By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN. Published: September 29, 2012. FOR the first time in a long, long time, ...

[EpicWin]

We know you have fallen on hard times Beau since your band broke up.

[Chiefbuck]

Beau, Clinton that three opportunities to take out Osama. I saw first hand the waste of time and money that happened during those Clinton years and also how the morale increased the day Bush 43 was sworn in. But there is one more observation that I must make about your opinions on political and military issues. Now pay attention, you couldn't find your ass with both hands. You are truly one of the distort and deceive brethren.