Special operators to anti-Obama groups: zip it

[longnecker]

WASHINGTON (AP) — A group of retired special operations and CIA officers who claim President Barack Obama revealed secret missions and turned the killing of Osama bin Laden into a campaign centerpiece are coming under criticism from some of their own.

Some special operations officers say the activist veterans are breaking a sacred military creed: respect for the commander in chief.
"This is an unprofessional, shameful action on the part of the operators that appear in the video, period," U.S. Army Special Forces Maj. Fernando Lujan wrote on his Facebook page, to a chorus of approval from colleagues.
A Green Beret who returned last year from Afghanistan, Lujan says that attaching the title of special operator with any political campaign is "in violation of everything we've been taught, and the opposite of what we should be doing, which is being quiet professionals."
On its website, the group called Special Ops OPSEC, short for operational security, says that Obama has taken too much personal credit for the Navy SEAL raid that killed bin Laden and hasn't recognized sufficiently the SEALs who actually carried out the raid. The group also claims that the Obama White House released classified details of the raid for the making of a Hollywood film, a claim that has not been proven.
"This is not to criticize the president personally, and the president himself," the group's founder, former Navy SEAL Scott Taylor, said in an interview Tuesday. "But at the same time, we feel he is ultimately responsible for cracking down on these leaks."
Known officially as a Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund, the group is listed as a social welfare organization, which allows it to receive unlimited financial contributions without disclosing the donors. Its identified members have Republican ties.
The group is one of a handful of groups of special operations veterans formed in the past few months that criticize the president.
Special Ops OPSEC's 20-minute video selectively edits the speech Obama delivered after the bin Laden raid, deleting the times he thanked the intelligence and military teams for the operation, and ending on reverberating repetition of his phrase "I directed."
http://www.mediacomtoday.com/news/re....org%3E&ps=931

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Special Ops OPSEC's 20-minute video selectively edits the speech Obama delivered after the bin Laden raid, deleting the times he thanked the intelligence and military teams for the operation, and ending on reverberating repetition of his phrase "I directed."
http://www.mediacomtoday.com/news/re....org%3E&ps=931

I dont like obama one bit but if we are ever going to have a proper debate we have got to stop telling half the story just because it suits our argument. It happens all the time from both sides, and the sad fact is that there are a lot of folks who get their news from sound bites and this kind of stuff sticks.

[Curly]

Gee, who do I trust more? Obama or Special Ops people..........hmmmm.

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Gee, who do I trust more? Obama or Special Ops people..........hmmmm.

Oh I agree with you my friend, but to edit the tape and act as though it hasn't been is wrong. They could have left it the way it was and it would have looked just as bad. What surprises me is the left in this country is quiet about Obama using bin laden to win re-election. I remember the "Mission Accomplished" crap and Bush using 911 in every speech crap but somehow this is different.

[Beau Stockard]

Any Special Ops servicemen worthy of wearing the uniform , like all our proud and strong American armed service men and women, gay or straight, trust the US chain of command that stops at our Commander -in -Chief President Barack Obama. I've been reading one of my summer reading list of books , Ari Hoogenboom's excellent history,"Rutherford B.Hayes:Warrior and President. Hoogenboom relates in the book a very interesting episode where Hayes received word on a Civil War battlefield that he had been nominated for public office .

While campaigning in the Shenandoah Valley in 1864 he was nominated in Cincinnati for the U.S. House of Representatives. Hayes refused to return to take to the stump, stating that "an officer fit for duty who at this crisis would abandon his post to electioneer for a seat in Congress ought to be scalped." That statement was worth all the speeches he could have made. Hayes was elected and the war was over before the first session of his Congress met on in December 1865. Hayes also famously said that ' he serves his party best by serving his country best

Perhaps, President Barack Obama was only channeling his inner Rutherford B. Hayes with his exuberant praise of the US Intelligence forces and Special Ops Navy Seals who successfully fulfilled the mission to kill bin Laden ? Hayes, like Obama , placed service to country above politics.

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Hayes, like Obama , placed service to country above politics.

I doubt that, this president is only interested in winning...at all costs. Hes worse then anyone when it comes to bending the truth.

[Curly]

Any Special Ops servicemen worthy of wearing the uniform , like all our proud and strong American armed service men and women, gay or straight, trust the US chain of command that stops at our Commander -in -Chief President Barack Obama.

Bullshit! Obama couldn't command a Cub Scout troop let alone have any idea what they go through, especially Special Ops. These guys pride theirselves on secrecy, stealth and just being efficient/lethal ghosts. This, never served in the military-goof in office is meeting with hollywood to brief them on an upcoming movie. He's to busy running his mouth for political purposes. How the hell are you supposed to respect that?

I just got done reading Mutany on the Bounty.

[Beau Stockard]

Some special operations officers say the activist veterans are breaking a sacred military creed: respect for the commander in chief.
"This is an unprofessional, shameful action on the part of the operators that appear in the video, period," U.S. Army Special Forces Maj. Fernando Lujan wrote on his Facebook page, to a chorus of approval from colleagues.
A Green Beret who returned last year from Afghanistan, Lujan says that attaching the title of special operator with any political campaign is "in violation of everything we've been taught, and the opposite of what we should be doing, which is being quiet professionals."

I still must agree with the military veteran officers like Major Fernando Lujan and others who truly know the rigors of combat and also know that failure to obey the chain of command costs lives. Clearly, the 'activist veterans' are entitled to criticize our Commander-in-Chief now that they're retired. However, if the politically disgruntled 'activist veterans ' were still on active duty then their actions would have been conduct unbecoming of a US soldier in any one of our armed service branches.

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I still must agree with the military veteran officers like Major Fernando Lujan and others who truly know the rigors of combat and also know that failure to obey the chain of command costs lives. Clearly, the 'activist veterans' are entitled to criticize our Commander-in-Chief now that they're retired. However, if the politically disgruntled 'activist veterans ' were still on active duty then their actions would have been conduct unbecoming of a US soldier in any one of our armed service branches.

But their not.

[longnecker]

Bullshit! Obama couldn't command a Cub Scout troop let alone have any idea what they go through, especially Special Ops. These guys pride theirselves on secrecy, stealth and just being efficient/lethal ghosts. This, never served in the military-goof in office is meeting with hollywood to brief them on an upcoming movie. He's to busy running his mouth for political purposes. How the hell are you supposed to respect that?

I just got done reading Mutany on the Bounty.

Curly I so agree with you. Unfortunately that can be said about his opponent also. And quite a few of our present elected officials.

[Curly]

Curly I so agree with you. Unfortunately that can be said about his opponent also. And quite a few of our present elected officials.

I know but Romney isn't the one running his mouth for political gain or his administration "leaking" info for the same reason. If and when he does, I'll be all over that too.

[Chiefbuck]

Beau, With your comment about all of our servicemen and women trusting the chain of command it is obvious to me and most who have served that either you did not serve or did so under the influence of someone or something that I'm not aware of. That said, most would obey any and all lawful orders. I served under a few commissioned and non commissioned officers who could not lead liquid human waste down a hillside. As the quality and training of military personnel deteriorates due to recent "modifications", various incidents similar to those that happened during the Vietnam war could happen again. The morale of our professional military is heading south.

[Curly]

Beau, With your comment about all of our servicemen and women trusting the chain of command it is obvious to me and most who have served that either you did not serve or did so under the influence of someone or something that I'm not aware of. That said, most would obey any and all lawful orders. I served under a few commissioned and non commissioned officers who could not lead liquid human waste down a hillside. As the quality and training of military personnel deteriorates due to recent "modifications", various incidents similar to those that happened during the Vietnam war could happen again. The morale of our professional military is heading south.

Give him a break, he was a Merchant Marine.

[Beau Stockard]

@Chiefbuck,

I served under a few commissioned and non commissioned officers who could not lead liquid human waste down a hillside.

You still obeyed the chain of command ;didn't you? Or, did you go awol or commit conduct unbecoming of a US serviceman? I seriously doubt that . So, you actually supported my primary contention, thank you. You seem less sure and positive about the quality of our armed servicemen and women. Why the touch of cynicism?

most would obey any and all lawful orders.

Any Special Ops servicemen worthy of wearing the uniform , like all our proud and strong American armed service men and women, gay or straight, trust the US chain of command that stops at our Commander -in -Chief President Barack Obama.

Major Fernando Lujan said,

A Green Beret who returned last year from Afghanistan, Lujan says that attaching the title of special operator with any political campaign is "in violation of everything we've been taught, and the opposite of what we should be doing, which is being quiet professionals."

[Beau Stockard]