light skin or dark skin'

[RobForaker]

Referring to the the Martin shooting in Florida where the 911 operator ask the question whether the individual was black, white or Hispanic? Should a law be passed for 911 operators as not to refer to ones race but to say 'light skin or dark skin'

[max1]

I do see how that would help anything

911: Sir was he.....lets say darker then river mud but lighter then charcoal
some idiot: no no, he was a bit lighter then...I dunno. You know when an oak leave falls off a tree then turns brown? He was like that but not as dark as say a kit-kat.

as opposed to what we do now
911: Sir what did he look like?
some idiot: he was a well dressed black man etc......

[RobForaker]

Operator didn't refer to race 911: Sir what did he look like?
some idiot: he was a well dressed black man etc......

[motherof3]

I'd say that is taking being politically correct wayyyyyyy too far. Of course 911 needs as accurate a description as possible. And yes, skin color is a distinctive characteristic. If you think otherwise and want to try getting a visual on your own go read any description of a wanted criminal or person of interest in the News Urinal. They never include race and to me it's just stupid and counterproductive.

[RobForaker]

GOOD POINT!! I will question the editors and a reporter I know...

[Roogle]

I think race should be in the description. It can be a double edged sword though. I do think the pros outweigh the cons. Someone dressed similar of the same race could be targeted, and possibly detained for said reason.

As some of you know. I don;t live in a great neighborhood. If something breaks out. The person could be described as a heavyset black male in his late 20s-early 30s wearing a black hoodie and nikes. It doesn't take much to find that description anywhere.

That doesn't bother me though as long as i don't get detained. I keep ID with me. But i know now there is someone that i should be aware of.

Light skinned is too broad of a term. That could mean a myriad of races.

[RobForaker]

I think race should be in the description. It can be a double edged sword though. I do think the pros outweigh the cons. Someone dressed similar of the same race could be targeted, and possibly detained for said reason.

As some of you know. I don;t live in a great neighborhood. If something breaks out. The person could be described as a heavyset black male in his late 20s-early 30s wearing a black hoodie and nikes. It doesn't take much to find that description anywhere.

That doesn't bother me though as long as i don't get detained. I keep ID with me. But i know now there is someone that i should be aware of.

Light skinned is too broad of a term. That could mean a myriad of races.

I 'm referring to the operator (is the assailant is light or dark skin) not the caller referring to race

[longnecker]

Referring to the the Martin shooting in Florida where the 911 operator ask the question whether the individual was black, white or Hispanic? Should a law be passed for 911 operators as not to refer to ones race but to say 'light skin or dark skin'

If you want to look along these lines should it not also be wrong to ask a person's sex? You know we have male/female/transgender .

[RobForaker]

'light skin or dark skin' Would lessen the possibility of racism and not feed into the spread of racism......Male or female are the most common trait we have besides light or dark..Race is a a double edged sword.

[max1]

'light skin or dark skin' Would lessen the possibility of racism and not feed into the spread of racism......Male or female are the most common trait we have besides light or dark..Race is a a double edged sword.

Its not going to lessen anything, what will lessen the race issue is for assholes like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and MOST of the media in this country to shut the fuck up if they can't tell the truth. What your proposing would endanger the lives of the police and the citizens, and AND is reckless at best to even suggest it.

[Crabby]

From my point of view, we need everything we can to help find someone for whatever reason. Race, sex, height and weight, clothing, facial hair. glasses,tattoos, cane, limp or any characteristic that would help identify the person. Breathing hard,sweating, scrapes and bruises, skinned knuckles etc. By the way, Hispanic isn't a race.They can be black white brown or whatever. Hispanic refers to ethnicity.

[Tralee]

That's just silly PC stuff. If you are a 911 operator and need to pass a clear identification of a suspect on to the police, you need to get specifics, race, length of hair, male or female, etc. To simply ask if the person has a tan, a dark tan or is as white as an albino is useless.

[Chase]

What I have seen and heard when describing people is more using adjectives with the race.

"it was a light skin black guy"

"it was a tan white guy"

Etc, etc


And rob, you said you would ask a tnj reporter why they don't use race in the paper, it says been like that forever, it's a policy of gannett media and won't change.

[Chiefbuck]

Reading this link only gave me a slightly higher pulse until I got to Gannett. The Wilmington version of the Gannett newspaper should be used in Journalism school as an example of what not to do. Does anyone remember the question and answer column that was a nifty feature. When the lady who found the answers to problems, questions etc about a wide range of topics retired, a replacement was promised by the management. It never happened which was no surprise to longtime readers. The News Journal is (in my opinion) on of the most politically correct liberal biased papers in the country. To clarify, my "beef" is with the editorial policy and the omission of news that would reflect poorly on the democrat and liberal policies and politicians. I'd prefer more facts and less opinion. If that policy was followed circulation would probably increase. Gannett nationwide however is pretty well set in it's liberal policy which is no news to anyone.

[max1]

Reading this link only gave me a slightly higher pulse until I got to Gannett. The Wilmington version of the Gannett newspaper should be used in Journalism school as an example of what not to do. Does anyone remember the question and answer column that was a nifty feature. When the lady who found the answers to problems, questions etc about a wide range of topics retired, a replacement was promised by the management. It never happened which was no surprise to longtime readers. The News Journal is (in my opinion) on of the most politically correct liberal biased papers in the country. To clarify, my "beef" is with the editorial policy and the omission of news that would reflect poorly on the democrat and liberal policies and politicians. I'd prefer more facts and less opinion. If that policy was followed circulation would probably increase. Gannett nationwide however is pretty well set in it's liberal policy which is no news to anyone.

This is the thing for me personally, I firmly believe we need to hear from all sides of an issue (just fact) then let us sort it out. You are right on target Cheif, to a lot of folks "perception is reality"

[EpicWin]

[RobForaker]

An accurate description....describing a suspect..Was the person male or female? What color was he? What nationality was he? ... Not... Was he black or White?

[max1]

An accurate description....describing a suspect..Was the person male or female? What color was he? What nationality was he? ... Not... Was he black or White?

WTF is the difference?

[RobForaker]

Is everyone black and white? What color was he?

[Crabby]

Black AND white? I dunno...zebra?