Re: What would you do if your life is threatened?
Mr. Foraker, if this is an attempt to stimulate discussion regarding the death of Trayvon Martin at the hands of George Zimmerman, your subtlty is lacking a bit.
Originally Posted by RobForaker
If someone was piling on top of me while trying to beat me senseless, I’d defend myself in any way I could. But, the "going for your gun" interjection holds no validity in this case. It assumes facts not in evidence.
In the first place, were I to have been armed from the beginning and I saw the attack coming, I’d not be having some asshole on top of me. On the other hand, had it been a “sneak” attack ending with me being on the bottom with the attacker trying to take my weapon, I'd shoot to protect myself.
But, self-defense isn’t the issue in this case. When the 911-dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin, he said that he was. The dispatcher followed his reply with, “We don’t need you to do that.” He acknowledged the instruction; but, he apparently resumed the pursuit.
And, this is where things become fuzzy. The matter of what led to the fatal confrontation is, so far, quite hazy. But, bits of evidence emerge with each day.
The police wanted to arrest him regarding this incident, but a prosecutor refused; Zimmerman had been arrested before on felony assault charges--against the POLICE, no less--but prosecutors ordered the charges reduced to misdemeanors; and the last interesting tidbit… Zimmerman’s father was or is a judge (released by CNN investigators) all seem to add up to impending trouble for Zimmerman.
I’m going to make a few comments regarding Mr. Zimmerman. However, PLEASE understand that this is MY opinion. And, as such, it doesn’t mean squat to anyone but ME. Your mileage may vary greatly; and, I certainly respect that.
Throughout my 7-PLUS decades of life, I’ve had my share of experiences with neighborhood watches and “civilian” police academies. Although I’ve never personally had a desire to attend one, I’ve observed several friends who have gone through such academies.
Civilian Police Academies give participants the opportunity to observe, FIRST hand, the intense training—physical, academic, and psychological—that this nation’s police officers go through during their own training.
And, even with the intense applicant screening that police departments use to pre-qualify POLICE applicants just to enter the academies, some of them will still wash out simply because they don’t have what it takes.
As well, some—less than 0.003% (three-one-hundreds of one percent)—will manage to slip through, even though they’re psychologically unfit for the job.
Neighborhood Watch groups—I have considerable experiences with these—are a different story. In my opinion, two types of people join these groups: sincere, rules-following law abiders and Rambo wannabes.
The former are conscientious neighbors on the perpetual lookout for their neighbors’ well-being. Whenever they observe suspicious activity, they notify the police and follow instructions.
Much of the time these people are unarmed, though not always. However, even the ones who ARE armed usually take no direct action unless their own lives, or those of other innocents, are in imminent danger.
Rambo was a fictional movie character who stood alone against the forces of evil. He made his own rules to deal with injustice. But, of paramount importance was the fact that IT! WAS! PRETEND!
Rambo WANNABES, however, are NOT pretend; they’re a dime-a-dozen class of human MALES who are attracted to quasi-military/police groups like flies are attracted to piles of excrement.
It’s a power thing where the carrying of a gun attempts to compensate such males for their fears of inadequacy relative to a specific part of their bodies.
Of course, they’d like to be REAL police officers. However, even if they could pass the physical requirements, they’d probably falter at the intellectual part of the qualifications, not to mention a likely wash out once legitimate police psychologists began even cursory probes of their twisted psychics.
So, being a “pretend” police officer is the next best thing. But, I suspect, this is only the case if they get to carry a gun—concealed or otherwise.
After all, sissy-ass Liberals invented police protocols to unleash an ocean of political correctness aimed at trumping law and order. And Rambo wannabes are universally dedicated to the task of single-handedly cleaning up Dodge. And, political correctness be DAMNED!
Again, this has been MY opinion. I have no idea how it’s all going to be resolved. It’s been a tragedy of monumental proportions for many innocent people, including members of BOTH the Martin and Zimmerman families.
But, I’m willing to wager a sizable amount of money that if qualified shrinks get around to probing Mr. Zimmerman’s head—the one on his shoulders—they’d discover that his actions had FAR more to do with his long-held fears regarding the length and breadth of the shaft supporting his OTHER head.
I remain convinced that had Zimmerman complied in totality with the 911 dispatcher’s instruction, broken off the pursuit, and gone his separate way, there would NOT have been a confrontation.
Mr. Ego and Ms. Arrogance are eternal lovers whose perpetual shenanigans always give birth to a love-child called Stupid.