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    I'm BAAACK! SE, prepare to fall asleep!

    I just returned from attending an out-of-town meeting with a cancer survivors’ support group. Generally, I don’t do these meetings at home, let alone travel 200-miles to attend one. But more on this in a little bit. First, though, I need to digress for just a paragraph or three.

    I didn’t intend to start such a ruckus when I told Silver Eagle to stop reading my posts since… well, you know, they seem to put him to sleep. The man appears a tad on the cranky side. It’s understandable on the other hand, he has to be somewhere around my age—dangerously close to 72 with the calendar breaking through the southern perimeter of the NEW YEAR.

    You younguns need to trust me on this—not YOU, Longnecker, or any of the other regular old coots who participate here—the 70s usher in the age at which good bowel movements begin to do wonders for one’s disposition… if you get my drift. But, the fact is that we’re all entitled to our opinions and NOWHERE is it written that we have to agree on ANYTHING.

    And, since I have no intentions of changing the way I post and reply on this forum, perhaps Silver Eagle should not read this as it most certainly has the potential for sending him right into a full-blown coma. Perhaps others, as well, may wish to take similar precautions. OK, for the rest of you, back to my trip.

    I’m not much on cancer survivor support groups, at least not in the common format in which group leaders conduct the sessions. Mileages vary all over the spectrum on the subject, though. Depending on one’s perspective, they can be Godsends. It’s just that, given my experience with such groups, I’d rather take a different approach.

    Like it or not, once you receive a cancer diagnosis, it becomes part of who you are, every bit like your gender, sexual orientation, and unique personality. But, the fact is that throughout our lives, we can shove tons of stuff into our emotional pockets and take them to our graves or we can decide to help people.

    Since this is my fourth journey through cancer’s God-forsaken valley of hell, I’d rather be helpful. As such, I can’t do it by hogging my journey because it’s not just for ME to take. And, herein is my primary gripe with one-size-fits-all survivor group agendas.

    Wherever cancer is the guest of honor, the gambit of clichés presented by the average group leader includes the same worn out themes: fights being fought; battles won amid wars sure to be lost; hope being clung to; agreements that “friends just don’t get it;” tears being shed; and fears being shared. Other themes appear, but these are the common ones and their prime directive is the easing of depression.

    However, the primary cause of cancer-related depression is the thought of dying and the fears that go with it. And, until we find a way to discuss death and dying, head-on and in terms of related logic, nothing short of mind-numbing drugs is going to ease the depression.

    Of all the fears shared, death (aka oblivion… in other words, NOTHING, ever again) seems to receive the most votes. But, for the life of me, I can’t understand why. Fear of death has never made my list of scary stuff and oblivion has never even entered my mind.

    For me, dying closes our windows of consciousness forever. Once closed, we’ll not only NOT know that we’ve died, we’ll have no idea that we’ve ever lived. It will be oblivion, but we won’t have a clue. What’s to fear? Even if you’re a devout religious, Christian or otherwise, having lived by the tenets of your religious convictions, oblivion does not exist, only an eternity of bliss. Again, what’s to fear?

    It pays to remember that the day will come when we’re all going to be dead. All! Of! Us! The time will dawn when there will be no humans remaining to remember that anyone ever existed or that our species ever did anything… worthwhile or otherwise. And, whether that time is close at hand or millions of years away, it IS surely on the way.

    Organisms, single cell and multiple, existed before human consciousness arose and they’ll survive long after it ceases. So, the sooner we learn to stop fretting over oblivion and begin LIVING for the time remaining in our respective windows of consciousness, the happier and fear-free, we’re going to be.

    My life has been pleasant; and, in as much as I’m fine for now, I realize that I’m no more than a simple blood test away from finding out otherwise. As well, given my philosophy stated above, death will be peaceful. But, like all other normal humans, the transition is a bit worrisome. But, when that transition begins in earnest, morphine can take care of this one, too. So, what’s to fear?

    And, YES, I realize that the Pope will never endorse my philosophy; there’s simply not enough guilt or pain (aka suffering). This, too, is understandable as the man’s a LOT older than I am and even crankier than Silver Eagle is. Perhaps a good bowel mov…. Never mind!
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    Joe Walther
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    Re: I'm BAAACK! SE, prepare to fall asleep!

    Joe,you wrote that at 3am. I was up at 5:30am for no damn reason. Is that what I'm in for? Am I to expect I'll get up earlier every year from now on? It reminds me of some sort of "golden years" season of Fall, I lose a minute of sleep every month.
    I'd like to sit down and have a beer with you but I was just put on a new cholesterol medicine and I'm supposed to cut back on the booze..........Tried diet, exercise and supplements...not good enough. The doc said I'm stuck with that beautiful gene and I have to weigh the risks. In this door we have stroke and heart attack and this door we have the slight risk of liver damage from the statins and less happy hours...... Oh well, door #2 it is. I'm not enjoying this "getting older" shit (among other issues) and I'm going down swinging.

    Thanks for your thoughts Joe. Keep them coming.

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    Re: I'm BAAACK! SE, prepare to fall asleep!

    This is for anyone who cares about life as we know it. Three years ago was in the hospita,l I had passed out at home watching the View on TV. I was ok in the hospital but the doctors wanted me to stay over night to be safe. I had a portable heart monitor on and thew next morning the docor came into my room and asked me how I felt. I told him I felt fine. He handed me a strip chart of my heart rythem from over the night. There was a flat line for about five seconds on it. I aked him if they had brought me back and he said no. My heart had stopped for five seconds and came back by it self.I have never heard of theis before. That Friday Friday the 13th of June I got a Pacemaker installled in my chest.The 13th was also my 47 th wedding anniversary. As for dying, I know we all will do it someday, but if it happens, I want to be the last person to know about it. Know body knows for sure what will happen to use after we die. But I look at it this way, if you have any children in your life they will carry your spirit with them and there kids will do the same You may not know this, but life goes on .We lost one of our Sons to Cancer back in 1995 .He was in the Navy at the time. He left two children behind so I know that he still lives in them. Yes Joe, I am In my 70's .And as of today .cancer free. Our youngest son got his orders ,he's in the Army. he's headed to Afghanistan this coming August .He's a captain in an MP battalion. Ther sending 5,000 mp's there for something big coming up.

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    Re: I'm BAAACK! SE, prepare to fall asleep!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Eagle View Post
    I had passed out at home watching the View on TV.
    Well S.E. therein lies the problem. daytime T.V. is a killer

    I Hope you are feeling better.
    On another note, My brother did a 6 month tour in Afghanistan last year. This year he's in Qatar, I'll put your son in my prayers along with him.

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    Re: I'm BAAACK! SE, prepare to fall asleep!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grin View Post
    Well S.E. therein lies the problem. daytime T.V. is a killer

    I Hope you are feeling better.
    On another note, My brother did a 6 month tour in Afghanistan last year. This year he's in Qatar, I'll put your son in my prayers along with him.
    He got back from Iraq a year ago last August. He did a year there too. When he gets back he's going to retire. with 25 years. He went up through the ranks to .With ten years in the Navy first.. Our coldest son was a Chief Petty officer on a nuclear Aircraft carrier when he found out he had bone cancer. He lasted 11 months. The head of the Cancer dept at Walter Reed Hospital said it was service related.John was 30 years old.

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