Large mystery missle launched 35 miles off the coast of Los Angeles...

[M.Opaliski]

It was California's economy going up in smoke.

[Silver Eagle]

It had to be a missile,It was going up not over or across.I'd bet it came from a sub.Who's, it's any ones guess.

[Joe Walther]

It had to be a missile,It was going up not over or across.I'd bet it came from a sub.Who's, it's any ones guess.

I think you are jumping to an erroneous conclusion. This object changed direction going north and south while moving at a constant velocity that was slow enough for a helicopter pilot to track. The video (about 15-minute’s of observation) taken by the helicopter pilot verified it. Missiles, on the other hand, don’t change direction, accelerate to target, and travel east to west.

And, while they always accelerate to target, we can obtain an average velocity based on the distance between launch and target, and the time involved. It usually turns out to be around 18,000 miles per hour. In 15-minutes, it would have traveled almost 5,000 miles—well beyond that pilot’s ability to track it in terms of both its speed and distance.

And, finally, if it had been a missile traveling, as you claim… UP, it would have disappeared into the upper atmosphere in short order; well short of the 15-minutes the pilot spent tracking it. And, trust me on this, other nations would not only have observed it, they’d have gone on all sorts of alerts and the phones—the RED one in the White House and virtually all of them in the Pentagon would have been ringing off their hooks.

I still maintain some contacts at NASA and I know Dr. Kaku (Astrophysicist) on a personal level. He studied the video at length; I didn’t. However, I’ll gladly take his word for it. And, until I see conclusive evidence that it was anything more than a jet’s vapor trail, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.

[longnecker]

I still maintain some contacts at NASA and I know Dr. Kaku (Astrophysicist) on a personal level. He studied the video at length; I didn’t. However, I’ll gladly take his word for it. And, until I see conclusive evidence that it was anything more than a jet’s vapor trail, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.

Well Joe you are not sleeping ..It's 2;30 am

[Joe Walther]

Well Joe you are not sleeping ..It's 2;30 am

This is true; but it's not out of worry. I write for public consumption and I do much of my research between 10 PM and 4 AM. Retirement makes it easy to do--I no longer own an alarm clock.

[Silver Eagle]

Well Joe ,Usually your right ,but this time I think your all wet. Being an Ex military person I've seen first hand missiles being launched from Ships.They go in the direction that they are fired to go. maybe some one was playing around and ooops they hit the wrong button. Not likely is it. I believe it was a short range test missile sort of like the one's they fire at Wallopes Island Va.As for Nasa telling the truth, That's hard to believe. Aren't they funded by the US Government.

[Joe Walther]

Well Joe ,Usually your right ,but this time I think your all wet. Being an Ex military person I've seen first hand missiles being launched from Ships.They go in the direction that they are fired to go. maybe some one was playing around and ooops they hit the wrong button. Not likely is it. I believe it was a short range test missile sort of like the one's they fire at Wallopes Island Va.As for Nasa telling the truth, That's hard to believe. Aren't they funded by the US Government.

You may believe whatever you wish. The physics behind my assertions is solid. There's nothing anecdotal or intuitive about it.

[Curly]

The physics behind my assertions is solid. There's nothing anecdotal or intuitive about it.

Not taking SE's side but that still doesn't mean it wasn't a missile. The "experts" have been wrong many times.

[Joe Walther]

Not taking SE's side but that still doesn't mean it wasn't a missile. The "experts" have been wrong many times.

Oh, how true this is, Curly. On average, at my best, I figure I'm right about half the time, but it beats the hell out of being half right ALL the time. However, my point to SilverEagle was not to prove him wrong and me right, but to show the existence of valid scientific evidence for explanations other than lax national security or an "oops" factor to explain what happened.

And, I don't disagree with you or others that "experts" have been wrong many times. I'll even go so far as to admit that even the experts have often been wrong. All I ask is that others understand that there is a difference between "experts" and experts. The former usually state conclusions as facts based on no more than anecdotal gut feel. The latter group tend to base their conclusions on a preponderance of likely science-based circumstantial evidence.

I have no idea how many missiles SilverEagle has witnessed, but I'm willing to bet they've all been guided missiles, which launch mostly in the direction of intended flight to target. However, based on the helicopter pilot's account and video tracking, there is no way this could have been a guided missile. They track too fast--always accelerating from moment of launch to the point of target impact--and they do not change direction unless they are heat-seeking. But, in this case, the tattletale clue lies in the vapor trail. Their heat footprint is too small to produce as huge and long-lived vapor trail as shown in the video footage.

And, as for ballistic missiles, there is an energy/fuel conserving reason why they track east to west no matter their launching points in order to reach suborbital (Earth's upper atmosphere) and track to a programmed target. It's all interminably boring stuff to all but we intrepid, pocket-protector-wearing geeks. It's sort of our idea of porn! But, even at this, it certainly can't compete with the stuff that tries to satisfy society's voracious appetite for the intrigue factor involved in conspiracy theories. So, even though I readily agree that the experts could be wrong--and have OFTEN been wrong--I'm quite inclined to agree with you that the "experts" are often wrong, as well; only, they're usually wrong far more often.

I'm a bonafide credentialed member of the former group AND a proud representative of pocket protector wearers everywhere. Wrong? Quite possible! It wouldn't be a first and it sure won't be a last before I die. I've yet to meet a physicist who's never been wrong and this most certainly includes Michio Kaku.

The scientific media contains a liberal sprinkling of able-bodied investigative reporters; all of whom know there is a Pulitzer just waiting to be picked up by the first of their lot to prove this was anything more sinister than a jet's vapor trail. And, as is Dr. Kaku, I eagerly await such proof. And, with no demeaning of SilverEagle's military service intended, "...but this time your (his spelling) all wet, I'm ex-military..." is not proof.

[Curly]

Oh, how true this is, Curly. On average, at my best, I figure I'm right about half the time,

I'd be willing to bet it's more than that.

It's all interminably boring stuff to all but we intrepid, pocket-protector-wearing geeks.

Lol. Deep down I must be a geek because nothing you've ever taken the time to explain has been boring to me.

[max1]

I'd be willing to bet it's more than that.

Lol. Deep down I must be a geek because nothing you've ever taken the time to explain has been boring to me.

hahaha Curly is an "apple polisher"

[Curly]

hahaha Curly is an "apple polisher"

It beats wiping shit off the wall.

[max1]

It beats wiping shit off the wall.

ah, good point mah friend :-)