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Old 05-08-2008, 07:05 PM
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ok here is more add
"Linens 'n Things" are closing 120 stores. Retail is the other shoe

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...r_n_99867.html
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I bet we're in for a lot more store closings and people losing their jobs in retail and "luxury" goods as the housing crisis and credit crunch gets worse. I don't think we've seen the worst of this economy yet. That's why we're trying so hard to pay off the debt we have.
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Mark, there are a lot of companies who have declared bankruptcy in the last six months. Ones that are pretty well known. Your list covers a very small part.
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Mark, there are a lot of companies who have declared bankruptcy in the last six months. Ones that are pretty well known. Your list covers a very small part.
then post the missing part....
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Re: bankruptcy news

I'm editing this so I don't sound rude...

In our district alone, there have been numerous filings over the past six months - Lillian Vernon, Linens N' Things, Skybus, Delta Financial Corporation, Holley Performance Products, American LaFrance (they make firetrucks) - on and on. (I found a firm that provides a list as opposed to my trying to get onto the Court's website and incurring all kinds of fees to collect the list for you - the link is posted below).

We're averaging one big company every two - three weeks.

Some, like Holley, are pre-packaged deals that come in and out of bankruptcy in 45 days and do not affect their creditors or company operations.

Others, like Hechinger are liquidations that go on for nine years.

I guess my point to Mark was that it's no shock that these things happen - they happen all year long throughout good and bad economic times. As I stated earlier, a lot of these filings are reorganizations and the company doesn't go out of business, continues to operate and goes on (think Fruit of the Loom and KMart). Others do mean closures and shut downs (think Hechinger).

*shrugs*

Again, just because a company has filed bankruptcy does not mean they are going out of business. And bankruptcy filings are actually pretty commonplace in the corporate world. And it's all public knowledge. The minute the petition is filed, anyone can walk into the Bankruptcy Court at 824 Market Street and look up the information on the terminals there.

Perhaps I'm just jaded. After all, this is what I do for a living.

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Actually, Morris Nichols puts a list together...

Commercial Chapter 11 filings in 2008:

(Delaware Chapter 11 Filings - 2008 : Delaware Business Bankruptcy Report)


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Heh... I found that tonight and had to have it.

I just think that corporate bankruptcy is really misunderstood by the majority of the public. They hear it and think "Christ, there goes that business" and it's not necessarily so... That doesn't mean that sometimes it doesn't happen - sure it does. But often companies go in and out of bankruptcy and continue to operate.
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Perhaps I'm just jaded. After all, this is what I do for a living.
Apparently so, I mean Mark saw this info and was nice enough to post it, I think thats cool......

Your first post in this thread was informative and really positive, dropping knowledge on people in a subject that you have expertise in is most excellent.....
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And my point to Mark wasn't slam him, it was to show him that this is actually an everyday occurrence and no need for panic. That large corporations go in and out of bankruptcy all the time and that the short list he posted really wasn't necessarily indicative of the scope of bankruptcy practice nationwide.

Right now, we're in a period of retail bankruptcies triggered by the situation in the economy. It's following on the heels of a period of health care institutions filing for bankruptcy (including retirement homes and managed health care systems). That was preceded by a short era of airline bankruptcies. In there we had a run on auto parts manufacturer suppliers and other small "trends". That's over the past ten years.

There is an ebb and flow to this particular practice... I didn't want Mark to think that what he was finding was unusual and that it automatically meant the companies he listed were "going out of business". That's all.

I wasn't trying to be bitchy to Mark in the least, honest.

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