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Re: A Black Woman's View ~ No He Can't 
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:13 AM
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"I would have to think it somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million blacks in this country voted for a man because he looks like them (that blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites who voted for him because he doesn't look like them.."

This is not criticism of Obama. This is criticism of the people who voted for Obama.

She's smart. We're dopes because we only saw color. We had no other opinion about the man or his politics.

My comments were all addressing this assertion. I reject it. And none of my comments were addressed at Rusty. It's an interesting piece for discussion. This woman has an opinion about why I voted for Obama. I think I demonstrated how ridiculous her opinion is.
Actually Kid I wasn't even thinking of your post when I wrote that. I do see criticism in this woman's article though. I missed ya brother.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:23 AM
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Actually Kid I wasn't even thinking of your post when I wrote that. I do see criticism in this woman's article though. I missed ya brother.
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Remember how thousands of Blacks were shut out of the inauguration because of poor crowd management/control? That shirt is referring to that I believe...

Here's the article:

Dan Brown: Thousands -- Including Me -- Shut Out of the Inauguration: Heartbreak at the Blue, Silver, and Purple Lines
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:30 AM
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I don't know what's more offensive - this woman's assertation that everyone voting for Obama only did so because they were black like him (or just white enough to feel guilty for being so) or that fact that this is at all newsworthy.

The idea that a black person decided not to vote for Obama is not unique or awe-inspiring. I am a woman who didn't vote for Clinton in the primaries. Should I accuse all the skirts that voted for Clinton because of her anatomy? I don't think this woman's opinion carries any more weight just because of the color of her skin. This idea that she, as a black woman, has more authority on the subject of whether or not Obama should have been elected is a circular argument.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why there are conservative parties (black and white) that still feel the need to use race as a straw man to explain why their candidate - be it Ron Paul or John McCain or Mick Huckabee - didn't win.
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For the life of me, I cannot understand why there are conservative parties (black and white) that still feel the need to use race as a straw man to explain why their candidate - be it Ron Paul or John McCain or Mick Huckabee - didn't win.
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It's the same thing with "Bush only won because he was the guy people wanted to have a beer with". Meaning, he was average. Nothing special. I.E...unqualified.

It's easier to accept that your political ideology was defeated by duped voters instead of accepting that something is wrong with your current ideology.

Bush won because his politics were favored AT THE TIME.

This is the same reason Obama won. 8 years of Bush ended at a terrible time for the country. OF COURSE McCain couldn't win. Not by promising no change from Bush, he couldn't.

If Obama was white and his name was Bill Robinson, McCain wouldn't have even carried Arizona. If race played any part in the last election, it's only that it wasn't more of a landslide.

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The idea that a black person decided not to vote for Obama is not unique or awe-inspiring.
I couldn't agree more. It also came across to me (like you) that she assumes her opinion holds more clout because of her race.
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oo ooo i have a race kinda question here....ok

i know this guy, black guy, he is real cool we talk a lot and all and get along and he is a cool dude in my book....

then this weekend i see him with a tshirt and on the back it reads something like

"Judge me not for the color of my skin, but by the inauguration i attended - Jan 20 '09"

now up till about 1 second ago i did not know that part of that is a quote by MLK....and im not a very good linguist but does that make sense as a statement?

original quote makes perfect sense though...



this didn't make me think differently of the guy, just the wording stumped me a bit.

I think that the tshirt was nodding to the fact that the Inauguration was the day after MLK day and the fact that many people felt a deep connection between Martin Luther King and Obama becoming president. Whether there was or not, I'll leave for another argument.

Do I personally think that the tshirt is racist? Not racist, but maybe a little unfair if you really want to get down to the nitty gritty. Is it really fair to prejudge someone based on their political affiliation?

Probably not....and that's more what that tshirt says to me.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:52 AM
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"Judge me not for the color of my skin, but by the inauguration i attended - Jan 20 '09"

Yeah, this is puzzling.

Now, if a white person was wearing it, you couldn't help but think that they view themselves as a "White Progressive" who's "down with the cause", so to speak. And personally, if I saw it, I'd think it was pretentious as all hell.

On a black person...it just makes no sense to me at all.

Judge me by the inauguration I attended? Okay, so you want to be judged by your political affiliation? Or that you were proud enough to make the trek to D.C.? Is that worth a judgement?

That T-Shirt sucks.


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Being a lame-ass t-shirt designer myself, I know crap when I see it,
and that shirt is crap. Makes no sense.

The only thing I can think of is, it means judge me by the inauguration
I attended, meaning just look at me as someone who takes part in the
political process (big whoop right?) and not someone who takes part in
the process only when race is a factor.

Anytime a shirt needs more then 3 seconds to interpret, that t-shirt
sucks. (Bing's T-Shirt Design Law #1).
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Worst types of black people? How many bad types are there? Good thing Obama was one of the good ones. I'm comfortable with that.
There's the worst types of white people too, lol, the ones that are influential and wrong themselves. Dont ask me to make a list, I dont have time, LOL

And thank you, hell I didnt realize how that sounded, lol
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There's the worst types of white people too, lol, the ones that are influential and wrong themselves. Dont ask me to make a list, I dont have time, LOL

And thank you, hell I didnt realize how that sounded, lol
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oo ooo i have a race kinda question here....ok

i know this guy, black guy, he is real cool we talk a lot and all and get along and he is a cool dude in my book....

then this weekend i see him with a tshirt and on the back it reads something like

"Judge me not for the color of my skin, but by the inauguration i attended - Jan 20 '09"

now up till about 1 second ago i did not know that part of that is a quote by MLK....and im not a very good linguist but does that make sense as a statement?

original quote makes perfect sense though...



this didn't make me think differently of the guy, just the wording stumped me a bit.
I think he meant "Judge me by the MAN I'm supporting, not by the BLACK man I'm supporting. I'm here as a voter, not a race."
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Obama is an excellent speaker/bullshitter and the white voters feel comfortable with him and his BS.
Obama can read a teleprompter like the best of them. No worries on making Bush-like mistakes when using his own words. Everything is completely scripted for him and all he has to do is act.
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With all due respect....If she feels that we have just elected a "token" black man, then why didn't she run? Why didn't she start a grass roots movement for a black person who would have been a good nominee? I'm tired of hearing people piss and moan. If you don't like the way things are....do something to change them.
But are not you pissing and ,oaning with your post?
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Obama can read a teleprompter like the best of them. No worries on making Bush-like mistakes when using his own words. Everything is completely scripted for him and all he has to do is act.
I keep hearing this.

I saw the man have 22 unscripted debates with one of the better politicians of a generation in Hillary Clinton. He seemed just fine using his own words then. And on 60 minutes. And on Meet The Press. And in his live press conference. And basically anywhere he doesn't have a teleprompter. And if he takes the time to choose his words carefully, I would suggest it is because he knows that every sentence he utters will be combed over to try to find a way to prove that he's a communist and wants to surrender the country to terrorists.

Honestly, in my opinion, this "teleprompter" thing is a way to try to explain the startling difference in erudition between the last 2 Presidents. And it doesn't work for me.
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