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08-27-2008, 08:05 PM
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| | | After all this time why does it matter which deferment Joe Biden got? Not everyone got shipped off to Viet Nam when they were drafted anyway. I had friends who went to Germany, Alaska and other places and never saw Viet Nam. | Re: Biden and the Catholic Vote
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| | I'm so sorry that I p'ed you Obama supporters off. Please forgive me.  ,
But please tell me as good Catholics how can you support either senator Obama or Biden? | Re: Biden and the Catholic Vote
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08-27-2008, 08:11 PM
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by Jessica Okay Froggy, that's a blog. That's someone's little space on the internet where they can posts pictures of their cats in costumes, or talk about what they had for dinner, or give their opinion on Joe Biden.
It's not a scholarly article. There is no fact checking. I could go to my blog right now and write "I am Elvis reincarnate," but that doesn't make it true.
It's well documented that he received a notice, reported, and was not able to serve due to asthma and bronchial issues.
Next.
Isnt that pretty much what you did ?
You stated he got a medical no proof to back it up.
The only thing I have found about a medical deferment was a Washington Post article from 1987 again just a statement nothing to back it up. This was also the time he was found to be Plagiarizing his speech again that has no credence in my book | Re: Biden and the Catholic Vote
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by Crabby After all this time why does it matter which deferment Joe Biden got? Not everyone got shipped off to Viet Nam when they were drafted anyway. I had friends who went to Germany, Alaska and other places and never saw Viet Nam.
Crabby it goes to the root of his character if he is going to duck the draft what is he going to do when this country really needs him ?
I dont like Al Gore but I respect him for going to Nam when he could of got out of it | Re: Biden and the Catholic Vote
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by BillW I'm so sorry that I p'ed you Obama supporters off. Please forgive me.  ,
But please tell me as good Catholics how can you support either senator Obama or Biden?
I'm not Catholic and I'm not that good  .
I also have never said whether I support Obama or McCain.
I just didn't much like your child molestation statement. | | The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to hockey For This Useful Post: | | Re: Biden and the Catholic Vote
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by frogman68 Could have easily been both, school while in school and asthma later. Lots of folks served with asthma, his military service or lack ther of does not bother me. As much as I despise him he has, IMO, served his country in his own way. | Re: Biden and the Catholic Vote
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| | Not sure what you mean by "red." If you're talking about negative rep, I can assure you it wasn't from me.
Chase, MO, and GL (assuming all have access to the system) can tell you that I have not once given a negative rep in the year and a half I've been posting here.
Not a single time, and there have been many posts more worthy of it than your nonsense.
As for your religious affiliation, I can't say I care.
As for truth, I didn't see any in what you wrote about Biden supporting child molestation. | | The Following User Says Thank You to Jessica For This Useful Post: | | Re: Biden and the Catholic Vote
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by frogman68 Crabby it goes to the root of his character if he is going to duck the draft what is he going to do when this country really needs him ? Frogman, you have the best "ready,,, FIRE... aim" mentality of anyone on this forum. But, unfortunately, here is a FACT.
Joe Biden reported to Selective Service the same day he turned 18. I know he did this because I went with him. I've known him since second grade.
He was ready to serve if they drafted him, but the DRAFT BOARD rejected him on medical grounds. This will probably come out during the campaign.
He comes from the same family background as I do... WORKING class. His father was an automobile salesman. I bought four cars from the Bidens, one from Joe's dad and three from his uncle Frank.
Joe's family had neither the wherewithal to buy him out of the draft nor the desire. They put every dime into his Archmere education. He paid a lot of his own way after that. Quote: Originally Posted by frogman68 I dont like Al Gore but I respect him for going to Nam when he could of got out of it Yes, Al Gore went to Vietnam... AS A JOURNALIST. He never saw a day's worth the combat. I wouldn't exactly call him an Ernie Pyle of WWII fame. Ernie was a journalist, too.
There was a big difference, though. Ernie followed the combat units right into combat. He was killed by a sniper. Al Gore never had to worry about any of that.
Yes, he could have "gotten out of it," but why? His father's the one who made sure he received the assignment he received.
Another journalist was Dan Quayle. Only, he didn't even go to Vietnam. He served in the journalism unit of the Indiana National guard. And by God, I know for a fact that not a single Viet Cong was able to penetrate into Indiana the whole time he was on duty.
I have an entire list of who served and who didn't... both sides of the isle. I received it in response to a FOIA request I filed several years ago in order to finish a research project I was working on.
I'm going to publish it here as soon as I can dig it out of my filing cabinet. You're going to be shocked, though. The list of servers on the Democratic side is three times longer than for the Republicans.
However, when it comes to the non-servers, the Republicans lead by a landslide, including one of your heroes: Dick Chaney.
Dick Chaney received FIVE deferments during Vietnam--I have the evidence. He stopped requesting them once he achieved exempt age. He bragged about it, too. In his own words, "I had other priorities than military service.”
It is one thing to disagree with Joe Biden's politics and simply not vote for him. It's quite another to put out this visceral crap for which you have absolutely no backup.
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by frogman68 Isnt that pretty much what you did ?
You stated he got a medical no proof to back it up.
The only thing I have found about a medical deferment was a Washington Post article from 1987 again just a statement nothing to back it up. This was also the time he was found to be Plagiarizing his speech again that has no credence in my book
If you can't understand the difference between the Washington Post and some dude from Fort Wayne, Indiana's blog, that's not really something I can help you with. | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jessica For This Useful Post: | | Re: Biden and the Catholic Vote
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by frogman68 Crabby it goes to the root of his character if he is going to duck the draft what is he going to do when this country really needs him ?
I dont like Al Gore but I respect him for going to Nam when he could of got out of it I know man.
Bush and Cheney were right out there on the front lines.
It's just that Bush's line was heading into the bar, and Cheney's was heading into the No Personality Shop to get a tune-up. | | The Following User Says Thank You to Jessica For This Useful Post: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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