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11-18-2008, 07:23 PM
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| | | Illegal immigrants go and get plates in PA because it is much easier to get a car registered there as an illegal than in DE. They then come and live here. I can't tell you how many cars that I see parked overnight in many of the neighborhoods around here have PA tags. WHEN WILL THE STATE START CRACKING DOWN ON THIS? This is completely illegal. Not only is it tax fraud, it is also insurance fraud. All of these cars that are registered in PA, but from people who live in DE, end up driving up the insurance costs for everyone else. | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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11-18-2008, 07:39 PM
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| | | Excellent post...but it needs to be directed to Mr. Markell, Senators Biden and Carper and Congressman Castle. The Minner admin has many "friendlies" in the the Ag business that depends heavily on illegals. But now, illegals have moved to the fast food and pizza shop industries because they can get paid under the table. When you hire illegals, you don't have to pay workman's comp, taxes or social security. My employee costs (in just the last two years) have increased double digits because I'm now paying for 8 or 9 immigrants who don't even work for me! Thanks Matt Denn for Workmans comp reform - the Auto industry is gone now, my rates shouldn't continue to rise (but the do anyway).
Unfortunately, the state doesn't have the resources to pursue this, it needs to happen at the federal level. And the Feds have too many more "important" things to do...like having you pay for the failures of incompetant and corrupt bankers and insurance company executives.
If you voted for ANY Federal incombant in this election, you're contributing to the problem and have NO right to complain about it.
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11-18-2008, 07:47 PM
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| | | Id say as a concerned legal citzen you should start writing down tag numbers and the number of consecitive nights they are at the house they are parked in front of. there is a law stating that you MUST change your vehicle registration with the state WITHIN 7 days of moving to Delaware. | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by lewin Id say as a concerned legal citzen you should start writing down tag numbers and the number of consecitive nights they are at the house they are parked in front of. there is a law stating that you MUST change your vehicle registration with the state WITHIN 7 days of moving to Delaware. Mmmm, depending on the neighborhood, this may or may not be a good idea. Get a camera with zoom and take pictures from a good distance if you must.
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11-18-2008, 07:52 PM
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| | | Great idea...I've done it...sent a list to NCCPD. They told me that motor vehicle law is a State issue. The State Police advised that since the vehicles are parked on a "county policed" development, that it is a County Police issue. Bottom line, it isn't important to those in control. Who's on first? | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by Raptor Great idea...I've done it...sent a list to NCCPD. They told me that motor vehicle law is a State issue. The State Police advised that since the vehicles are parked on a "county policed" development, that it is a County Police issue. Bottom line, it isn't important to those in control. Who's on first?
maybe the cops would care if they knew it was driving up insurance costs for them on a personal level. | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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11-18-2008, 08:24 PM
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| | | It's not always illegals. Just ride around neighborhoods in NCC, some very nice ones and you will sometimes see 3 or 4 PA tagged cars in the driveway and maybe 1 or 2 in the garage if the doors are up. | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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11-18-2008, 08:32 PM
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| | | My neighbors have PA tags and they are not immigrants. Anyone can get PA tags bc PA doesn't care if you live in another state. You can have a PA tag and a DE address. I have seen PA registration cards that have Delaware addresses on them. | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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11-18-2008, 08:53 PM
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| | Ughh, I hope you're not complaining about my truck.
Its registered in PA but has been in DE for a year. I was just visiting for a year and moved back to PA. No point in paying for plates and titles for a year visit.
I guess the question is, can illegals get driver licenses in PA? To register a vehicle in PA you need insurance and to get insurance you need a license, so thats the main question.
Now most insurance cards are printed on some pretty plain paper so I guess you could easily forge an insurance card and policy number and then go register a vehicle.
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| | | I believe that once someone moves to Delaware, they have 60 days to change their registration over, so it would be at least a two month process to monitor license plates each and every day to know if they were violating a law. However, even that can get tricky. Someone can work or go to school in Delaware and have a temporary residency here without becoming a legal resident for any reason.
Say for example that I use my friend's address to obtain a PA license and registration, but stay down in Delaware with family and work here as well. Do you know how difficult it would be to prove that every single person living in Delaware with a PA plate doesn't qualify to be a PA resident? The man hours and tax dollars dedicated to an effort like that would be enormous.
Hockey, just out of curiosity, how does it benefit your neighbors to register their cars in PA? Registration there is only about $5 cheaper. Is it for cheaper insurance? | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by Robb Ughh, I hope you're not complaining about my truck.
Its registered in PA but has been in DE for a year. I was just visiting for a year and moved back to PA. No point in paying for plates and titles for a year visit.
I guess the question is, can illegals get driver licenses in PA? To register a vehicle in PA you need insurance and to get insurance you need a license, so thats the main question.
Now most insurance cards are printed on some pretty plain paper so I guess you could easily forge an insurance card and policy number and then go register a vehicle. I would imagine that insurance would be verified, wouldn't it? I don't know for sure... | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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11-18-2008, 09:00 PM
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by gravenewworld maybe the cops would care if they knew it was driving up insurance costs for them on a personal level. How would registering a vehicle in PA and living in DE drive up insurance costs for DE residents? If anything, it drives up costs for PA residents because if the registrant has their insurance from a nice zip code in PA and lives in crime laden area in DE with no police (because they aren't sure who's turf it is), then when they submit a claim to the PA insurance company, they are driving up PA residents costs. | | The Following User Says Thank You to Robb For This Useful Post: | | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by Jessica I would imagine that insurance would be verified, wouldn't it? I don't know for sure... The insurance verification process at registration simply consists of looking at the insurance card and writing down the Insurance Company name, the NAIC #, policy #, effective date and expiration date.
If any verification is done later in Harrisburg, which I don't believe that they do, the registrant already has the plates so not much they can do. Insurance companies in PA do notify Harrisburg when the insured cancel their policies or let them expire. | | The Following User Says Thank You to Robb For This Useful Post: | | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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11-18-2008, 09:09 PM
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by Raptor Great idea...I've done it...sent a list to NCCPD. They told me that motor vehicle law is a State issue. The State Police advised that since the vehicles are parked on a "county policed" development, that it is a County Police issue. Bottom line, it isn't important to those in control. Who's on first? If you wanna have some fun, try reporting a DUI driver high on drugs on I-495 through Wilmington and call 911. They have no clue. They don't know who to respond or even have someone available even though two county cars were passing by in the southbound lanes (911 can't contact them apparently). Apparently in Wilmington, on a state highway, the County, State, and Wilmington Police are MIA. | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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| | | Once the vehicle is tagged, you don't need insurance for 2 years....or however long the registration period is. | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by Jessica
Hockey, just out of curiosity, how does it benefit your neighbors to register their cars in PA? Registration there is only about $5 cheaper. Is it for cheaper insurance?
IDK Jess.... I practically live on the state line so there are a lot of people around me who have PA and DE tagged cars. I know my neighbors work in PA as do most of the people around here. I don't really want to ask them but the reason may be a work related one.
As for the law.... you have 60 days to register your car in DE after moving here. If DE is your place of residency, any cars you own that are in your name, must also be registered here.
This is not an easy way to alleviate the illegal immigrant "issue" in DE, IMO.
As an ex-resident of Unionville and the Kennett area, I can tell you that most of the cars the illegal workers drive are registered to the owners of the workers (aka: mushroom houses). The owners would have many illegal workers and their families living in apartments and allow them to use any of those registered vehicles.
The illegal workers up there are not licensed and most speak no English. I've been in court with these people...it's not fun. They get deported then come back a month later with a different name and papers. | Re: When will the state crack down on cars with PA tags?
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11-18-2008, 09:40 PM
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| | Quote: Originally Posted by Raptor Once the vehicle is tagged, you don't need insurance for 2 years....or however long the registration period is. Sad but true, but the ins. companies are supposed to report that to DMV, but if they can't find the owners, nothing that they can do. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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