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Old 09-12-2007, 07:50 AM
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United Flight 23

I was watching the History Channel last night. The show was called Grounded on 9/11. They mentioned a flight United Flight 23. The pilot heard of the attacks before he took off. He informed the passengers that there was a "mechanical issue" with the plane. Once at the gate they deplaned some "mid eastern looking men" ran off the plane never to be seen again. The authorities searched there bag and found some Al Queada literature and false id's. It was said that they couldnt track them down since their Id's were false. I Dvr'd it last night and can make a you tube video since I havent found much on the web about this flight. I am like WTF this was the worst terrorist attack and they havent found (or tried it seems to me) to find them. Sorry if I am beating a dead horse but this seems ridiculous to me that they would allow terrorists to run off a plane and not look and find them.


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Frogman, or anyone, did you remember hearing about this back then? I didn't. Why would a story like that never get around? Either that or I can't remember. But that is a major WTF.

We can argue all day over Iraq and "fighting them there". But it's our weak borders, etc that concern me more. I wish they would invest in pursuing the a-holes that are already in our country.
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:03 AM
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Frogman, or anyone, did you remember hearing about this back then? I didn't. Why would a story like that never get around? Either that or I can't remember. But that is a major WTF.

We can argue all day over Iraq and "fighting them there". But it's our weak borders, etc that concern me more. I wish they would invest in pursuing the a-holes that are already in our country.
You are exactly right. Plus, there are plenty of American born sympathizer "cells" just waiting to make a statement.

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That'd be Rosie O'Donnell.
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Re: United Flight 23

I saw that and wondering if it just wasn't said because maybe it was thought that a statement like that at that time might have put america over the edge.. so to speak. I think the mass majority of people would not have been able to handle the thought of terrorist running free after 911. No one would have flown if it was thought that there was a missing group out there. The fear and terror that people would have felt would have been paralyzing. Although, I completely agree, this should have been brought forward and those men should have been found.
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Flight 23 was discussed, and reviewed. Why it was not mainstream was that the news networks had little to go on, as well as the FBI. This was a big reason for the Patriot Act, which was designed to search, what was not allowed.

http://www.house.gov/list/hearing/il...14_flight.html

(Read near the bottom) the guy that DID the rescuing was not the pilot, but the Control Tower.

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Ballinger said he didn't wait for orders from his supervisors, or for Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta's decision to ground all flights. He immediately tried to get his pilots down on the nearest Tarmac.
"As soon as I had a grasp of what was going on ... I sent it out immediately. It was before Mineta, and even before the airlines told us to alert the crews," he said.
Dispatchers were told by superiors: Don't tell the pilots why we want them to land.
"One of the things that upset me was that they knew 45 minutes before that American Airlines had a problem. I put the story together myself (from news accounts)," Ballinger said.
"Perhaps if I had the information sooner, I might have gotten the message to 93 to bar the door."
Perhaps, but Kirk is adamant that Ballinger did save the passengers and crew of United Flight 23, which on Sept. 11 was about to depart from Newark, N.J., to Los Angeles. Kirk believes Flight 23 was going to be commandeered.
Thanks to Ballinger's quick call, the flight crew told passengers it had a mechanical problem and immediately returned to the gate.
Later, Ballinger was told six men initially wouldn't get off the plane. Later, when they did, they disappeared into the crowd, never to return. Later, authorities checked their luggage and found copies of the Qu'ran and al-Qaida instruction sheets.
"I felt good about that one," Ballinger said.
Kirk admits it's speculation, but said he believes "there are 200 people walking around today because of Ed Ballinger."




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Re: United Flight 23

Also, I forgot to add that the 9/11 Comission Report also covered the events. The Government was doing the right things.

If you would like to read the report here is the .PDF (its 7.22 megs in size and its a 585 page document) but the point is that many things come up, that not many people know or knew about.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

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http://www.house.gov/list/hearing/il...14_flight.html


This article was published 9/14/2001 and at the bottom states it was 3 men, not four or five.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/...in311250.shtml

"The FBI was already investigating whether an altercation at Kennedy Airport on Tuesday was linked to the World Trade Center explosion, a law enforcement source told The Associated Press on Thursday.

The Tuesday incident occurred about 9 a.m. the same time two hijacked jet airliners crashed into the World Trade Center towers, toppling the two 110-story buildings. The source said the FBI is investigating whether the incident may have been an aborted hijacking attempt.

After the plane was boarded, United Airlines officials told passengers that United Airlines Flight 23, bound for Los Angeles, had been canceled.

Three males traveling refused to disembark. The argument with a member of the flight crew became so heated that the crew member called airport security.

But before security arrived, the men had vanished, said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity."
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